Monday, September 29, 2008

Annenberg Factcheck's LIES on Obama's gun record

There's nothing unbiased about so called "Factcheck." The media loves to haul it out as a truth arbiter, but all the group does is call itself "factcheck" and set itself up as the authority on political ads. When it comes to the gun issue, they let their biases cloud the way of judgment. Much of this is the same stuff I debunked against the Washington Post (on record supporting a total gun ban). which Obama used as a source when he acted like the KGB in threatening to go after the FCC license of radio stations who aired the campaign ad.

First off, "factcheck" is "Annenberg Factcheck." Obama got his political start with terrorist Bill Ayers as part of Chicago's Annenberg Challenge. Both "Factcheck" and Annenberg Challenge have the same funders, the Annenberg Foundation. Annenberg Foundation also Gave $100,000 to the gun grabbers. Money talks, BS walks.

There's 'factcheck's' link on the NRA's target of Obama

There's the NRA's Response

I didn't even read it after the part of Annenberg funding Brady.

Factcheck calls this false: - NRA Claim: "Ban use of Firearms for Home Self-Defense"

The truth - Chicago has a total gun ban. Obama in his vote supporting prosecuting those who used a firearm in their home as self defense in those gun ban areas.

Factcheck calls this false: - NRA Claim: "Ban Rifle Ammunition Commonly Used for Hunting and Sport Shooting"

The Truth - Ted Kennedy's own words debunk this claim.

Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.

It is outrageous and unconscionable that such ammunition continues to be sold in the United States of America. Armor-piercing ammunition for rifles and assault weapons is virtually unregulated in the United States. A Federal license is not required to sell such ammunition unless firearms are sold as well.

Police vests are made for pistol rounds. The .30-30 is a low powered round today almost exclusively used for hunting. The other round targeted, the .223 (used to hunt varmints) is in some places ILLEGAL for deer hunting since it is NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH. Hunters do not want to wound deer. Kennedy said in his speech that it wasn't for "hunting", and factcheck takes his word for it despite him contradicting himself by wanting to ban .30-30 ammunication.

Factcheck calls this false - "NRA Claim: "Ban the Manufacture, Sale and Possession of Handguns"

The Politico Questionaire? Factcheck simply takes Obama's word that questionaire was a mistake.

Factcheck calls this misleading - "NRA Claim: "Mandate a Government-Issued License to Purchase a Firearm"

Obama supports that on pistols. Last I checked, that's a firearm.

Factcheck concedes this is true - NRA Claim: "Pass Federal Laws Eliminating Your Right-to-Carry"

They call this "partially true" - "Expand the Clinton Semi-Auto Weapons Ban to Include Millions More Firearms"

They said it was true but didn't like the "millions" part.

Factcheck called this "unsupported" - NRA Claim: "Appoint Judges to the U.S. Supreme Court and Federal Judiciary Who Share His Views on the Second Amendment"

Obama voted against Scalia and even Justice Roberts.

Factcheck called these two "uncertain" - NRA Claim: "Increase Federal Taxes on Guns and Ammunition by 500 Percent" and NRA Claim: "Close Down 90 Percent of Gun Shops in America"

That was based on a Chicago Defender article. I didn't see it, so I can't comment, but Factcheck was going to only take Obama's word on that.

I'm glad to see the NRA going after so called "Factcheck." As I said about the Washington Post. Who the hell died and made those jokers the arbiters of truth?


Communications guru said...

Wow. What’s it like to only believe the sources in your own mind. You should try presenting some facts instead of spending so much time attacking the messenger.

Factcheck is unbiased, no matter how much you try to smear them. This entire post, as well as the NRA’s false attack, is a stretch, but calling the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence “gun grabbers. It’s almost laughable, but the sad part is you absolutely believe it.

The NRA false attack ad really did some tap dancing to get to those false position. It presents a link to a bill that lists nothing but yeas and nays, not a single explanation. I have no idea what armor piercing ammo has to do with deer hunting. I have never seen a deer wearing a flak jacket.

It’s sad the NRA has become nothing but a political partisan group.

Even if Sen. Obama adopted your ridiculous position that every person should have unrestricted access to every kind of firearm, I would still probably vote for him, especially when you consider the alternative and the rest of his positions.

I know where you can carry a weapon to your heart‘s content: join the well regulated militia: the U.S. military.

Dan said...

"""I have never seen a deer wearing a flak jacket.""

Try shooting a deer with a 38 caliber pistol round. See what happens. Chances are the deer will get up and walk away wounded and not dead.

Deer don't need flak jackets. They are tough animals. Bucks can run into trucks, get up, and walk away.

Lastly, the military is not the militia. Two seperate organizations. Read the Federalist papers to know what the "well regulated militia" is.

Communications guru said...

So, I don’t see a reason for armor piercing ammo.

The militia is the military, including the National Guard.

Dan said...

ALL rifle ammunition outside of a .22 is considered "armor piercing ammo" in the minds of Ted Kennedy, Obama, you, and the other anti-constitutional advocates. Didn't you take an oath to the constitution when you were in the Navy? Sad to see you don't give a damn about it.

Communications guru said...

I sure did take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, and I have never wavered in that pledge. Sad to see you refuse to do so.

AmazinAlison said...

Actually, is under the Annenberg Center, which is a public policy institute.

Then Annenberg Foundation is an non-profit started by a Republican, and happens to be the group with whom Obama worked.

Lesson here? Don't believe everything you read or here. No conspiracy...stop worrying about it.

Dz said...

Hi Green Me:

How is the Annenberg Foundation NOT connected to the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennslvania?

They granted them $33.5 million to, among other reasons, support

Grants Database » Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania


Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania

33,500,000 to establish the Leonore Annenberg Scholarship and School Funds at the Annenberg Public Policy Center.

Program Area(s): Education and Youth Development
Date Awarded: June 2007 (FY 2007)
More Information:


to support, a nonpartisan, nonprofit, 'consumer advocate' for voters which applies the best practices of journalism and scholarship to monitoring the factual accuracy of statements by major U.S. political figures in TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews, and news releases"

Dz said...

@Communications Guru

It doesn't matter what you think constitutes the militia*, the right to keep and bear arms belongs to the people.

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

*though it is clear in the Constitution's supporting documents, by the founders.

Unknown said...

The National Guard and military are only two parts of the three part militia codified by US law
The part you conveniently leave out is the unorganized militia that consists of every able bodied citizen or resident that has expressed their intention to become a citizen

Armor piercing rounds have been illegal for awhile now
The Kennedy crew sought to do the typical gun grabber redefining and label anything capable of piercing personal body armor as armor piercing, this can also be accomplished by a common ice pick or a 30-30 round, the most common hunting round in America. Many consider it to weak a caliber for deer past 100 to 150 yards