After weeks of internal divisions and public controversy, the Livingston County Republican Party Executive Committee issued a statement Friday saying that all nine judicial candidates who responded to its endorsement questionnaire share the "core values" of the party.
"Based on their answers, we have found their statements of core values to be consistent with those of the Republican Party," the statement said.
I do have one correction that needs to be made.
On Friday, Wholihan declined to comment other than to say that he voted for the statement.
Actually my statement on "he voted for the statement" was "I didn't vote Nay." Take that how you wish.
Technically, the statement given in the press release would be issue advocacy if used in a broadcast ad. It did not use the "magic words" of endorse, support, for, elect, against, defeat, or reject. However, if this was federal and in a broadcast ad, this statement - "Based on their answers, we have found their statements of core values to be consistent with those of the Republican Party," - is viewed as an electioneering communication in support of those judicial candidates under the BCRA(McCain/Feingold) Act (unless it is a 527).
Technicalities aside - to the readers reading this, does that statement look like an endorsement?
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Sounds to me like this has all been much to do about securing a hold on our judicial system so that it fits with your core beliefs. Ever think of reading about the Salem Witch Trials?
This is why hate crime laws are needed. Think about it.
Bluzie - What do "Hate Crime" laws have to do with this? Or Salem Which trials. We are not out to burn anyone at the stake, and one of the reasons I'm a Second Amendment supporter is to avoid situations like that. We're pushing for judicial restraint and judges that follow the law, not
RKG - I agree with Sedler on this. Maybe he actually has a libertarian streak on some things as well as his liberal streak. (I did say that an ideal judge would be Alex Kozinski)
As to my comment that was "pathetic", I can not divulge the reasons for that comment on this blog as what happens in house, stays in house. I chose my words very carefully.
The tactics may have changed, but issue will still be around on these judicial races up till November.
As MacGuyver would say, "I have a plan."
To finish that one sentence - rWe're pushing for judicial restraint and judges that follow the law - not rewrite the constitution to mean whatever someone like Stephen Reinhardt says it mean.
Those witches were guilty!
Hahahaha!
There you go again Republican Michigander, following some idiot talking points to get one narrow agenda into office. For heavens sake... You are a bright person, I know you can do better than jump on the if only we didn't have gays and women who didn't want the government in their lives band wagon. We will always disagree until you are will to stand up for real freedom for all!
This is the United States of American. I do not want the Republican version of the Taliban.
Freedom, freedom, never ever surrender our freedom.
I live by this, we should agree. Why don't we?
You're putting words in my mouth bluzie. I have a rather neutral standpoint on gays. I just don't want my tax money paying for their domestic benefits, or it going into our schools or around kids. That's it. Other than that, I don't care. If it involves consenting adults, I don't care. It's a rather libertarian standpoint actually.
As to abortion - murder is illegal. Killing innocent unborn babies is wrong. It should be outlawed in all 50 states by each state legislature (therby following the constitution and 10th amendment). The fact that is legal is bad. The fact that it is legal by judicial fiat is worse.
Babies don't have any choice.
Safe rare and legal. Keep the government out of it. It was illegal until 1972 and there were far more abortions then than there are now. I guess you think government control is best, it didn't work then and it won't work now. It works great for the Republicans to get out the vote though.
I don't like abortions anymore than you. I want them to end, now. Making them illegal takes us backward not forward in this area. But as long as you can rail on people like me for wanting to find a real solution, then we won't ever get anywhere on this issue. But you have a great get out the vote tool. I prefer to find real solutions. I will never give up on freedom. I want the government to have less control over people's lives, not more.
And that my dear makes me a Democrat and you are not.
Republicans have control of the House, the Senate, the Presidency, and the Supreme Court. No one has even mentioned a contitutional ammendment to make abortion illegal, know why? You and those like you wouldn't buy into being spied on, having healthcare become only for the wealthy, taking our troops to unnecessary wars, and have our good paying jobs sent off to other parts of the world. Instead they have you believe YOU are the only ones wanting to end abortions and the only way is to make illegal. Well that won't do a thing to end abortion and all rational people know this, and if you are a reader, history proves me correct. We have to have better education and birth control. It's plain and simple.
But follow the logic of those who want to stop sex education and birth control and those people claim to be against abortion. Weird huh? Takes me back to the Republican Taliban comment.
It's a wedge issue to use those like you to get out the vote. By the way, no one wants to take away your guns either. Democrats are hunters as well. They also like to skeet shoot and protect their homes. We also love our children, worship God and eat apple pie.
I don't like to pay taxes anymore than the next person, but I know the borrow and spend policy of the Bush administration makes us weak. I hate privatizing our infrastructure, having foreign countrie own our toll roads and bridges makes me angry. it should make you angry too.
If we are going to gender neutral then you should not want to pay for anyone's family benefits. Otherwise it isn't freedom for all people, it's just those the Republican Taliban think are real families.
A friend of mine's father is a Baptist minister in West Virgina, he is applauld at how Christians treat the children of gay families.
That's why I call it the Taliban, because in theory they have a very similar rational, not as vilolent though. YET.
Well mother of two, I am a mother of 3. I am pretty sure I am older than you and do remember before roe v wade. Yes women did die, it wasn't that rare, they suffered hideous infections and a highly profitable black market was in place.
The fact is to end abortions is to make them unnecessary. I am not willing to go back to the days of coat hangers and back alley abortions for young women and older women who have thought their child bearing days were over. Yes the over 50 crowd have them as well.
I personally do not believe your statistic about the healthy full term babies, as when I have spoken to doctors they agree with me, partial birth abortions are to save the life of mothers and are almost non existent. Maybe you see different doctors, I don't know.
Anyway,I believe in working very hard to limit the need for abortions as no one wants them, no one wants their child to have one.
I find it insane to wish to make more laws against our citizens. I bet you think sex eduaction in middle school is against your morals too, but it isn't about you, it's about those who need help. Sorry I sound insane to you. Your logic doesn't add up to me. Let's agree that abortions should be rare, I want safe and legal and you don't. Because we tried it your way and we know it doesn't limit abortions, so what's your reasoning? You just want the government to be involved and to punish women and their doctors?
Now that sounds INSANE to me.
Mom of two, I have a yes or no question.
Do you want women who have abortons to be charged with murder?
It's easy, YES or NO
One can go on and on. You can publish volumes of excuses and politically spun visions of how things were in back alleys until Roe v Wade saved mankind.
You will never, NEVER jusyify the killing of the innocent to rectify our social mistakes.
Please stop trying. It makes you seem very cruel.
So yes or no? Do you charge these women with murder? I keep hearing about murder from you... but tell me yes or no?
When it's a law you cannot have it both ways, it's murder. Are you okay with this charge?
Patrick, I maybe called many things, but cruel has never been one. Yes or no? Is it murder as charged or are you just one of the many using it as a political tool? Tell me Patrick. I am not a cruel person, but right now I would like to hear a straight answer from you or are you too afraid to say you would like women who have an abortion to be tried for murder. Yes or no? You cannot have a law that cannot be enforced.
I hope you have the backbone to answer this question, because I am going to insist you answer it.
Walk your talk or sit down and shut up.
Hey Red, Simmer it down a bit and read what I say. I said I would like abortions to be rare, safe and legal. I have also heard that partial birth abortions are so rare they are a non issue. Most people agree it's only to save the life of the mother or it just CANNOT HAPPEN!
You can answer the question as well, Do you charge the mother who has an abortion with murder, yes or no?
I am sick of this murder charge being throw around, it is a murder charge you are looking for, if not sit down and shut up. You cannot ask for a law and not have it enforced.
Excellent observation rkg!
Bluzie, because your intention is to divert the issue away from the spilling of innocent blood, you have no moral authority to ask the question about the enforcing of laws to protect humnan life.
You have no moral authority to receive an honest answer because you attempt to call into question the sensitivity of pro-life people regarding the charging of women while you, yourself intentionally ignore the cruel, scientifically proven brutality of abortion.
It is shameful that anyone can support the tearing apart of the human child in the womb and then insinuate that it is mean to hold people accountable for this action.
So yes, your intentions and position are cruel. That is why I hope you change them. After all, the best pro-lifers are former pro-abortion people like yourself who have come full circle in their hearts in understanding the horror of abortion.
Oh and yes, when abortion is mentioned anywhere it will be reacted to. Killing is like that. As long as killing is "legal" this will not change.
Patrick, when you join a group or a cause it is wise to know where the group is taking you. What's wrong with answering the yes or no question? Do you want the mother to be charged with murder?
Step up, c'mon you can do it! Yes or no?
I am not cruel, I actually work to reduce the number of abortions. It's my goal to reduce the number of abortions my 95% or more, I know where I am going, the question is do you?
Patrick, if you cannot answer, it's my opinion that you have no moral authority to run for office!
You certainly have copped a caggy attitude!
Be direct in your thinking and actions, you seem to be direct about what you think about my actions and intentions.
TO CALL ME PRO ABORTION IS A HUGE LIE.
YOU SEEM TO BE A BIT OF A BULLY.
As long as you are admitting that a murder charge will be filed for the mother of the aborted child, I believe you understand the direction of the anti-choice movement.
I have found it most unusual that most people of your ilk usually haven't thought it that far through. Sorry, it's been true for me.
And no one here actually came out clearly that yes a woman should be charged with murder. It more directed at candidates and the Democratic party because it truly is more a get out the vote tool for Republicans than a sincere effort to criminalize abortion.
And if you truly wished to end abortion, you wouldn't chart a course that actually promotes abortion! Black market industries are horrible and very deceptive.
Try ending the need for abortions, instead, you seem to like taking a stand against birthcontrol and sex education. Doesn't seem too sincere to me.
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