Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Wisconsin and Iowa

Wisconsin had a big recall election yesterday. There's another one next week for two democrats. The GOP will keep the state senate in Wisconsin. Here's the election results from the AP. Democrats needed to take three seats to take the lead, and hold on next week when their own incumbents are up. Instead they took two, or more accurately, took one with one of the republicans defeating himself for screwing around on his wife. The other democrat pickup was over by LaCrosse, a large college town. That's not a big surprise. The GOP has a 17-16 lead after the recalls, with a chance to go 19-16 next week (likely 18-16). Considering the democrats and labor dumped 30 million in these recall elections, it didn't turn out that bad.

Iowa has a big straw poll in Ames coming up this weekend. Right now, nobody is running away with the momentum on the GOP side for 2012. Romney has the money and has organization, but a lot of people just can not support him. Who's going to carry momentum? Who's going to drop out after bombing at Ames? That's what makes this straw poll significant. Back in the 1999 straw poll, four candidates dropped out soon afterward. Lamar Alexander, Dan Quayle, Pat Buchanan, and Elizabeth Dole. Buchanan and Quayle wern't going anywhere anyway. Alexander and Dole dropping out were a big deal. Nobody's running away with this right now. Michelle Bachmann, Ron Paul, and Herman Cain have their followings. Rick Perry is on the fence with running. Pawlenty and McCotter may get some traction. Huntsman may come out of nowhere.

It's going to be an interesting political weekend.

10 comments:

Downtown Brown said...

I'm next door to Kenosha County Where The Wirch vs Stietz State Senate race is being held. I have a theory that since the Dems failed to gather the 3 needed seats they might back off on the last 2 races and thus give the Repub challengers a foot up and thus return the State Senate 19-14 GOP control. It would be amazing to see that after 30-40 million dollars in Dem and Union dollars spent to achieve a goal..they could end up in the same place they started! Obama and the Dems are trembling today, since Wisconsin in 2012 is slipping away from them! I will also be watching the Ames results. I think Gingrich and T Paw drop out next week. And possibly Cain if he doesn't take 4th. I think the race goes Bachmann, Paul, Romney, T. Paw, Cain. (But if Paul somehow beats Bachmann, or worse she comes in third, she might drop out seeing that Perry is getting in soon, and she can re-focus her energy on running against Amy Klobuchar for Minnesota Senator).

Communications guru said...

Another Republican lie. More than $31 million – that we know of – of out of state unregulated corporate cash was spent to prop up the corporate Republicans who are aiding in the killing of the middle class and unions. This was a grassroots effort by Democrats, just like it was to collect the signatures. Still, the cooperate pockets are very deep, and they used that money on fraud, like the lobbyists who bankrolled the teabagger scam; Americans for “Prosperity” sending absentee ballots to Democrats with instructions to return the paperwork after the election date.

Recalls are very rare, and getting two is unusual. I can’t speak for Wisconsin, but it has been almost 30 years since a successful recall took place in Michigan when two State Senators were recalled.

Downtown Brown said...

Dear Mssr. Guru' There is no way that 31 million dollars were spent here in Wisconsin by Corps. the most recent info shows about 40 Million TOTAL. The out of state Unions spent about 60% of the $$ spent. We still have a few more days until the last 2 are finished. I can tell you that Sen. George Petak, R was successfully recalled about 15 years ago, (When the Left needed one seat to flip the State Senate), and Sen Gary George D over corruption issues. To the best of my knowledge there has been nothing like this in the country. Very exciting to watch..and the Dem/ Unionistas are left with emptier pockets and nothing to show for it. evidently MSNBC's 37 viewers aren't enough to change the face of the New Wisconsin. Wisconsin, as you may know, is the birthplace of the "Proressive" (aka socialist) movement..it looks like the it might be the burial place for it as well :^),

Communications guru said...

The fact is unions didn’t spend nearly as much money as the Koch brothers, teabagger front groups like AFP and corporations. Unions supplied more troops on the ground than cash. Really, “out of state Unions spent about 60% of the $$ spent?” Simply not true. What makes them “out of state unions?”
Sorry, but the Republican/Corporations are left with emptier pockets – granted they are very deep – and two less seats than they started with. You really think MSNBC only has 37 viewers? Maybe for the righting morning Joe, but not for the rest of the channel. Sorry, Wisconsin is not the birthplace of the Progressive movement, and it has nothing to do with socialism, any more than the fire department is socialist.

Downtown Brown said...

No sense of humor I see Mssr. Guru.

Re:Progressivism Check this:
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/topics/shorthistory/progressive.asp

Bob LaFollette WI..His Son or Grandson is still our Secretary of State. Who failed to certify the Legislation passed to put the Walker Worker rewrite in action. The Judge who voided the uncertified law was found to be operating improperly by the State Supreme Ct.

The Left Unions and the busfulls of Illiniesians that were brought in for weeks were operating on behalf of the Left/ Dems / Unions. Not Sure where you live Guru. But i live here right in the middle of all of this stuff. with eyes, ears and nose to the ground.

Communications guru said...

I have a great sense of humor. You’re not sure where I live? Wow, it would have taken one click to find that out. Again, what makes them “out of state unions?” SEIU, the UAW and just about every other union have locals all over the country, including Wisconsin.
Like I said, recalls are rare, and the GOP lost two seats it once had.

Downtown Brown said...

Out of state is Unionistas from Illinois mostly. Howell! Nice town my brothers and step-mother live there. Formerly of Hartland and Fowlerville. In the past 6 months of turmoil the Dem's and their unions have been busing in folks from Nevada, IL, MO, CA and of course DC.. to inflate the the appearance of protestors. As for the 2 seats the one seat was a slim 1200 votes in a race that WASN'T about Scott Walker..and the other is a heavily Dem District that a Repub has clung to for years. As for tomorrows votes one is in a heavily GOP district and the other is a heavy Dem district. Although Scott Walker did win both of those districts. I'll be at the victory party tomorrow in Kenosha. It's an uphill race but the incumbent is acting like a guy in serious trouble...he's worried.and even agreed to 3 debates in the past several days..where he acted like a high school trouble maker.. It was embarrassing! Fortunately for Wirch nobody saw those debates.

Communications guru said...

Sorry, that is just not the case. The UAW, SEIU and just about every other union have locals in both Illinois and Wisconsin. That’s what a brotherhood is all about. Workers have no voice unless they band together. But in your mind the millions of dollars in out of state corporate money are OK.

Communications guru said...

So, how did those retaliatory recalls go yesterday? The good news is that with the slim 17-16 grand oil party majority, Walker’s anti-worker and anti-union agenda will be slowed down. He’s next anyway.

Downtown Brown said...

I thought about this discussion thread today when I read first the Wisconsin GAB report of Spending was released it looks like 23
Million dollars of Union $$ has been spent this year in Wisc. Hmm pretty close to the dollar amount I posted in my earlier posting.

http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=247435 .

Also I grant that the GOP was unable to defeat the 2 remaining incumbents they did hold the majority in the State Senate..and thus the Walker train keeps on rolling. Right to Work is up this Fall and I'm really looking forward to that. Furthermore watching the result in NY-9 and the Nev-2 is ever more heartening..since they used Paul Ryan as a reason to vote for the Dem candidates and this left leaning district, and the almost 50/50 district was even more evidence the Left is dying fast. Thanks to Obama, Reid,, and Pelosi! http://libertearacine.blogspot.com/2011/09/ny-9-and-perrys-first-peak.html