The rainbow-design diversity flag at Howell High School, the source of controversy for more than 18 months, is coming down this summer, according to both the club's faculty advisor and a spokesperson for the LOVE group that opposes the flag because it feels it endorses homosexuality.
A second flag, put up more recently by a traditional values club, will also be coming down.
I wonder if this issue is now over? Only time will tell.
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It’s sad that prejudice, intolerance and hate from the so-called love group prevailed. It’s a sad day for our community, tolerance and Civil Rights.
I hope the issue is not over. Unless, of course, one good thing does comes out of this, and that is that the hate group that goes by the inapt name of the love-pac crawls back under its rock.
This is a great victory.
The lesson learned is that if you embark on a campaign to tell impressionable and vulnerable high school kids that homosexual behavior is acceptable and harmless, you will no go unchallenged by the pro-family majority of our community.
I am honored to be part of the LOVE organization.
Again, intolerance, hate and prejudice wins out over fairness, tolerance and Civil Rights. All in the name of love? Sad.
That LOVE group is creepy.
Agree.Scary too, that people still think like that.
Kevins said...
Again, intolerance, hate and prejudice wins out over fairness, tolerance and Civil Rights. All in the name of love? Sad.
I hope you arnt implying that sexual preferance is a right under the constutition.... Its NOT!
what is up with this
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I believe the problem here is that the flag is a diversity flag that does include homosexuals. Are you against including this group of people to be protected? Do you think it's okay to treat these people differently? I think it's very un Christian to not treat homosexuals equally.
News Flash you children either are homosexual or they are not homosexual. Maybe you had a choice, most people don't.
This we know to be true. There is no need to protect them from another persons sexuality. There is no pressure to join this group of people. They need to be protected from bullies.
What I am saying is all men are created equal. We are all endowed with certain rights; among them are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and you can’t deny them even if you disagree with a certain group for some irrational reason.
Red, is that a nickname or your political bent, you're 100 percent correct, I am intolerant. of intolerance, like I have said every time this issue comes up, and I’m proud of that. This is a diversity flag, and only hatemongers like you see it as anything else. You are also right that I’m trying to change this country, but I am not a “leftist” I am a progressive and a liberal. We have the greatest country in the world. But it is not perfect, and we can do better than we are doing.
One thing for certain Kevin is right that gay's should be treated like ordinary people. Though I disagree with there sexual prefrence, I still think that it is wrong to discriminate. Finnally my family's problem with the flag is that there is only one diversity flag, the American Flag. That should be the only diversity flag hung in a Public School.
Also I know the President of the Traditonal Values club personnally and he shares my opinion. He only wanted his flag up there that way it would get the Diversity flag down. Kevin, dont personnally attack anyone or a group unless you know them.
So if you think it’s wrong to discriminate, then why are we having this debate? A preference is a choice, and I don’t see you discriminating against African-Americans because black is their preference for skin color. They have no more control over heir skin color than gays have over their genetic makeup. So according to your reasoning we should eliminate every flag, logo and trademark in favor of the American flag. That’s ridiculous. Just about every club, organization and group has it’s own symbol, logo or flag, and one group that honors the differences in people chose to display theirs. Another group of misguided people who support discrimination mistakenly thought this was a gay pride flag, and objected. Never mind that it is not, but even if it is it should not matter.
That’s a poor reason for wanting your flag displayed, just to see someone else’s taken down. That says a lot about you, and it’s not good. I did not attack anyone personally, I attacked the so-called love group and what they stand for, and I do know them. They are a group of paranoid, intolerant people.
Well then do we all agree that everyone deserves to be treated with respect and dignity no matter their sexual orientation or gender? Do we all agree?
I don't care what gay people do as consenting adults, but they do not need to be pushing their agenda in our schools.
The only agenda being pushed was respect and dignity. You and those like you believed something very different.
People know if they are homosexual by the time they are in high school. It isn't a choice.
Kevin said:
" So if you think it’s wrong to discriminate, then why are we having this debate?"
And Anonymous said:
"Well then do we all agree that everyone deserves to be treated with respect and dignity no matter their sexual orientation or gender? Do we all agree?"
I would say that is EXACTLY the point that the LOVE side, and those who support traditional values, were trying to make through all of this.
Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. EQUALLY. No special favor towards ANY group. No discrimination towards ANY group, because, by definition, to favor one means to take opportunity away from another.
And, at the same time, the protection of young people against "promoting behaviors as acceptable, that might cost them their life".
There is a very valid line of reasoning that says we should not promote, as "normal", behaviors which may jeopardize the health and safety of young people, at an age where they may not understand the ramifications of their behaviour. We should not, as a society, promote in our schools, any behaviour that is could cost our young people thier lives. We should not say that sexual activity of any kind, outside of marriage, is an acceptable behaviour for a young person to experiment with, because that behavior can and does transmit life threatening disease. It is just as valid whether is it hetero or homosexual activity. Both are activities that should be discourages, rather than encouraged, as the high school and junior high school level.
Just as we should not promote a "safer way to drink and drive" to teens by drinking 3.2 beer (Like they used to try to do years ago- to those of us who remember 3.2 beer), we should not, as a society, promote ANY risky behaviour.
Again, it is a different point of view than others.
But to those who subscribe to this point of view, it is a view that has merit, and is worth bringing into the discussion. I subscribe to this view, this "value", as do many, many others in this community.
Your thesis is an opinion that is not supported by science.
Don't feel sorry for me. Just please drop the politics and deal with the hard truth.
Homosexuality was removed from the Psychiatric industry's list of disorders in 1973 by politics, not science. There was no medical or scientific research or data that predicated this. What there was, was pressure from the left.
Homosexual desires are not chosen. They are real. But they are disordered. Many likely causes have been discovered through extensive research of late. The "gay" gene, however has been found to be completely baseless in scientific fact.
Homosexual behavior, on the other hand IS chosen. And human history shows as hard as it may be, it's best by far not to choose it.
Once Homosexual men and women come to terms with the fact that they have a disorder, they begin to improve their lives by quantum leaps. This is great because we are supposed to love them and this way, they begin to discover healing options in their lives and don't have to die. Yes, I have seen them die up close and personally. And it is a great tradegy to see someone die because they felt they had no options but to choose a behavior that leaves them empty, and emotionally and physically devastated.
You might hate my answer. I don't really care. If I can ask one thing of you though, I will. Would you please start loving homosexual people enough to stop lying to them? That would be great and there would be less suffering in our culture.
I joined the LOVE organization because these people understand this complex human dilemma and are doing their best to apply Christian benevolence to a difficult situation.
God bless you, Red. And you too, Mr. Pratt.
Let's not get graphic here. Kids could read this. I understand Count Me Red's point, but if any "descriptions" or anything more graphic that what's here so far is mentioned, it's going to get deleted.
I'd like to keep this blog rated PG.
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