Tuesday, August 29, 2006

Idle Attorneys still paid (Marcinkowski)

Marcinkowski's doing alright for himself right now. Hat tip to commenter "Stands" for giving this link. From the Daily Tribune in Oakland County.

ROYAL OAK -- Two city attorneys continue to collect paychecks of $1,700 to $1,875 a week for doing nothing while Royal Oak pays outside counselors to handle its legal issues and employee negotiations.

Deputy City Attorney Jim Marcinkowski and Assistant City Attorney Brian James describe themselves as the Maytag repairmen of City Hall.

"We fell from grace for some reason," James said. "You have to ask the City Commission why. It's not my decision. I didn't ask to sit here and do nothing."

Elected officials aren't talking about the situation, however. They point to an unfair labor practice charge filed by James, Marcinkowski and legal secretary Carol Schwanger, who make up the three-member Teamster Local 214.

Unionized Attorneys?


Keith Richards said...

After reading this story I have to wonder why anyone is treating Marcinkowski like a serious candidate?

Patrick Flynn said...

Like I said before, Jim. Don't spend any more money on this campaign.

Communications guru said...

I don’t understand the reason for this post. We know you obviously don’t like unions, after all, why should employers have to treat employees fairly, right. Or is it that you’re mad that Mike Rogers is the only one who can campaign whenever he wants, like when he was a state Senator and now a Congressman. I suggest if you have a problem, go to a Royal Oak City Council meeting and voice your opinion during call to the public.

Stands Right said...
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Stands Right said...

I don't think I'm gonna go to a Royal Oak City Council meeting, instead I think I'll contact Marcinkowski directly at "work."

Anyone know his email address at the City Hall?

Communications guru said...

Just ask him directly. He's a lot easier to reach than mike rogers.

Stands Right said...

Where shall I call Marcinkowski? At "work" or on the campaign trail?

Communications guru said...

Call the Brighton office at (810) 229-3005. It's a local call, for us here in Livingston Couty anyway. Or try his Lansing office at (517) 579-7228.

Stands Right said...

So, I shouldn't call him at "work," huh?

Communications guru said...

What ever. Do you want to ask him or do you just want to continue to play this game?

Stands Right said...

Guru, Guru, Guru:

At 3:47 this afternoon (I wrote it down), I called his office, (248) 246-3240, and no one answered the phone...

OK, maybe, Marcinkowski was doing something important while we wasn't working. So, I called at 4:02 and guess what - still no answer...

Who's playing games here?

Stands Right

Communications guru said...


Communications guru said...

I guess I should have read the entire article before I commented. After reading the entire article it’s clear to me that it’s you who is truly playing games, and you don’t have a leg to stand on, stands.

This is the really relevant part of the article that our biased and dishonest friend left out of the post, and it shows that both Marcinkowski and the city attorney want to work to earn the pay the city is giving them. From the article,

"The fact that this case has to do with not providing any work to employees is very unusual," said Teamster lawyer Wayne Rudell. "It's like the reverse of featherbedding. These employees want to work, and they have jobs but no real duties or responsibilities."

It also says, Marcinkowski “is using up personal time then will take an unpaid leave of absence in September, October and November.”

What that means is what he’s doing is taking vacation time to run for office, and that’s a perfectly normal and common practice. Maybe now you and dan can bitch about mike rogers campaigning all day on our dime when he should be working. Somehow I doubt that will happen. You can call his office in Royal Oak all day and he will not be there, and he has a legitimate reason for that. Now how about stopping with the games, stands?

Anyway, after November he will be in Washington, D.C.

Stands Right said...

I don't get it.

City Hall won't give any work to Marcinkowski while they pay him $99,000 a year and $90,000 to another attorney and that sounds normal? Why would anyone DO that?

Sounds more like some weird game to me. I don't get it.


Lighten up, Guru.

Communications guru said...

I guess you can't read very well.

Stands Right said...

Well, you're the communications guru, enlighten me.

Communications guru said...

Already have. Read the article and my posts. If you can't understand after that, then I, or anyone else, can help you.

Stands Right said...

OK, let's see if I get this straight:

(1) City Hall is not giving Marcinkowski any work, but

(2) Marcinkowski is using up personal time so he isn't taking work (according to you: "You can call his office in Royal Oak all day and he will not be there..."),

(3) Marcinkowski files an complaint that City Hall isn't giving him any work, but of course, he's taking personal time so he isn't taking work.


Communications guru said...

There is simply no hope for you if you're that dense.

Stands Right said...


Count Me Red said...

If Marcinkowski really wanted to work he surely could find some work to do. What, no thinking outside the box, no ideas, no plans?? Guru, when your argument is dead you resort to name calling or evasive tactics. You have a crappy candidate on your hands. What's his ideas, plans, dreams for change??? Being AWOL on your job doesn't say much when you are asking for a new job. I agree with Mr. Flynn, Jim, don't spend any more money on this campaign. Guru, what's happening to your other candidate McGonegal?? He's another crappy candidate. If you guys are going to do a take-over, you'll have to pick some dynamic candidates. These guys are not it.

Communications guru said...

Well, Communist, I’ll make the same argument I made to stands, you need to read the article. Who did I call a name? Stands is just playing a game, and he knows it. He’s just twisting the facts. At least I hope so. If not, no adult can suffer from such a lack reading comprehension.

How is Mr. Marcinkowski AWOL? I guess I have to recap the story for both of you because you’re either too lazy to read it or can’t understand it.

The city’s legal team, represented by Teamster Local 214, filed an unfair labor practice charge. In a thinly disguised attempt by the city council to break the union, they are giving legal work to the lone attorney who withdrew from the local.

The city council is paying them anyway. Why? I don’t know, ask them. For them to accept the money it is not wrong or illegal. But the lead attorney says he wants to earn his money and stop the city council from wasting taxpayer money by outsourcing legal work to outside firms. How is that wrong? To be above board, Mr. Marcinkowski is taking personal time he earned, a common and accepted practice, to camping, and he plans to take an unpaid leave of absence for the last three months of the campaign. Why don’t you ask mike rogers to do that?

If Mr. Marcinkowski is such a “crappy candidate” as you allege, then why did I get a robo attack call by the republican party yesterday?

They want to inform me that Mr. Marcinkowski once ran for office as a republican. Guess what, I don’t have a problem with that because I meet people everyday who tell me they didn’t leave the republican party, the party left them in its mad dash to the extreme right.

As for Mike McGonegal, he’s doing fine, thank you for asking.

You’re going to vote for Chris Ward no matter what, and you don’t even care that at election time, the only time politicians are ever accountable to the voters, he has completely blown you and the people of the 66th district off. When was the last time anyone actually saw him in Livingston County, other than at a fundraiser? I don’t think he even lives in the district anymore.

Republican Michigander said...

""When was the last time anyone actually saw him in Livingston County, other than at a fundraiser?""

Last week

Republican Michigander said...

And Kevins/guru - How have the Republicans moved to the "extreme right"

If they've move in any directions - it's to the LEFT, exceeded only the democrats moving to the extreme left once it was taken over by the San Francicso/George Soros/John Kerry/Ann Arbor crowd.

Stands Right said...

Another issue for Marcinkowski bites the dust:

(CBS/AP) Former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was the first Bush administration to reveal undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame's name, the New York Times reports.

A lawyer involved in the CIA leak case confirmed Tuesday that Armitage was the first and main source of columnist Robert Novak, who disclosed Plame as a CIA officer in 2003.

Could that be why Marcinkowski removed the picture of His Execellancy Joe Wilson from the front page rotation of his web site?

I gotta ask again: how can Marcinkowski file a complaint, that he's not getting work, when he's on "vacation"? Maybe its not "wrong," guru, but it sounds stupid.

Communications guru said...

Gee dan, even though you refuse to answer any of my questions, I’ll still answer yours. How has your party shifted to the extreme right? I really only need two words to sum it up, Tim Walberg.

Even though incumbent U.S. Rep. Joe Schwarz had the endorsement of all the local, state and national republican parties, as well as your god, the NRA, he still lost to a fundamentalist preacher who had little success as a state Rep.

Need further proof? We have the discrimination and hate towards gays, only pro-life views are allowed in the party, numerous wedge issues like trying to put a ban on gay marriage and discrimination in the Constitution, the attack on science, the hard line foreign policy and the stupid term “rino’ for those reasonable republicans who don’t toe the conservative line and actually appeal to people in the middle.

Actually, just keep doing what you’re doing, dan. Keep labeling republicans who are capable of appealing to independents and conservative and moderate Democrats “rinos.” When your party leaves them, we’ll take them. You are turning your back on some truly great people, and when you truly have a “uniter” you kick them out of the party.

Your crap about Democrats moving to the left is just that. I have to ask, why do you always bring up George Soros but never Richard Mellon Scaife? When you compare the two Scaife does not even come close to Soros in accomplishments. Your paty seems to adore people who get rich by inherting it from their fathers.

Soros is a self-made man who escaped from Nazi Persecution of Jews in Hungary, and in 1948, at age 18, he supported himself by harvesting apples and painting houses before enrolling at the London School of Economics, according to Newsweek.

He uses the money he himself earned to promote liberal democracy throughout the globe. Since 1980, when he began giving financial support to dissidents and human-rights movements such as Poland's Solidarity, no private citizen has done more to promote reform in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union. What an evil liberal.

Scaife is the principal heir to the Mellon banking, oil, and aluminum fortune, according to Wikipedia. He uses his inherited billons to invest in republican smear specialists, like the Arkansas Project, the American Spectator and the Heritage Foundation. Your hero.

As for Sen. Kerry, he’s a wounded and decorated combat veteran. Not a whole lot of those in your party, at least among the ones in power clamoring for war.

As for the rare sighting Chris Ward in the county, I wonder if it had something to do with the fact you are on the Livingston County republican party's Executive Committee?

Communications guru said...

Richard Armitage was one source, not the only one, and isn’t he part of the Administration? Also, this would not be the first time the bushies have made a scapegoat out of someone else for their screw up.

Why was Amb. Wilson’s picture removed from the web site? It might have to do with the fact it’s a new web site. He’s prominently mentioned on the site, so neither has backed off in their support, nor should they.

I know this is not that hard to understand, and you’re not really stupid, just playing games. If you are so concerned, call him and ask him about it if it bothers you so much. I don’t know all of the exact details, and I gave you his phone numbers.

I don’t know when the unfair labor practices complaint was actually filed and the city council decided to take the ignorant action it has. He could have taken his personal days before or after, it really doesn’t matter. He didn't necessarily have to be present to file it. Head attorney Dave Gillam could have filed it on his behalf or the union rep could have filed it. Either way, Mr. Marcinkowski didn’t necessarily have to be present.

Or he could certainly have stopped in the office while on vacation. Are you telling me you never stopped by your place of employment when you were off? I certainly have.

Stands Right said...


(1) You really got this one backwards: I'm p r e t t y sure that the head attorney is in management, NOT labor and did not and will not file a complaint on labor's behalf.

(2) New web site? A ha ha ha, Bwaaa ha ha ha, ah ha ha ha a a ha ha ... a ha, a ha oh.

(3) What does the presence of Marcinkowski - or lack of - have to do with filing a complaint?

The point is that Marcinkowski is not in the office to get work, how can he complain when he doesn't get it.

Some Guru you are.

Stands Right

Communications guru said...

I apologize, I was wrong. I got deputy attorney Brian James and Dave Gillam mixed up. It is Gillam who is engaging in the unfair practices. I stand by everything else I wrote. James may have filed it, I don’t know if Jim took time off before or after the complaint that was filed by either him or James.

I just don’t see the point you are trying to make. Is Jim doing something illegal or shady? Why does he have to be in the office the day the complaint was filed?

liberals Hate America said...


Fact: George Soros is about as far left leaning liberal there is. This is what your hero did from Wikipedia :On Black Wednesday (September 16, 1992), Soros became immediately famous when he sold short more than $10bn worth of pounds, profiting from the Bank of England's reluctance to either raise its interest rates to levels comparable to those of other European Exchange Rate Mechanism countries or to float its currency. Finally, the Bank of England was forced to withdraw the currency out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism and to devalue the pound sterling, and Soros earned an estimated US$ 1.1 billion in the process. He was dubbed "the man who broke the Bank of England."

In 1988, he was asked to join a takeover attempt of the French bank Société Générale. He declined to participate in the bid, but did later buy a number of shares in the company. French authorities began an investigation in 1989 and in 2002, a French court ruled that it was insider trading as defined under French securities laws and fined him $2 million which was the amount that he made using the insider information. Soros denied any wrongdoing and said news of the takeover was public knowledge. [5]
His insider trading conviction was upheld by the highest court in France on June 14, 2006. [6]

Fact: John Kerrys Purple hearts have always been in question as per the Wikipedia link provided. He is a cheat and a liar and a disgrace to the military yet your party chose him to lead the nation and the American people knew that.

Fact Richard Armitage, the deputy secretary of state under Colin Powell, was the first to reveal that Wilson's wife was a CIA employee. He blabbed carelessly to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post, then to columnist Robert Novak, who mentioned it in a July 2003 column. Armitage, after admitting this to the FBI in October 2003, stood by silently year after year as Vice President Cheney, Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, and other White House officials were blamed for what he had done, and President Bush suffered politically.
Fact: Yellow Cake Joe Wilson an ex-ambassador and National Security Council official in the Clinton and Bush I administrations, sparked the "leak" controversy in the first place by writing in the New York Times that Bush had lied in his 2003 State of the Union address about Saddam Hussein's seeking uranium in Africa for nuclear weapons. The CIA had sent Wilson to Niger in 2002 to check out precisely that point, and he claimed to have debunked it. Later, the Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that nearly everything Wilson wrote or said about Bush, Cheney, Iraq, and his own trip to Africa was untrue. Wilson was a fraud. "It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously," the Washington Post editorialized sorrowfully last week.

Fact: If your party is not moving to the extreme left the what does the Daily Kos have to do with weekly meeting with the Democratic leadership and the Kos’s recent doing with the Lamont victory. Dean was unheard of in the 2004 race until the Kos’ started a internet money drive for him. Your parties in fighting is Carl Roves dream come true.
A Quote from the Kos
Howard Dean vs. Harry Reid
by JollyBuddah
Fri Dec 09, 2005 at 05:41:33 AM PDT
It's time to have it out for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party. Are we going to let the DLC Sockpuppets determine the future of the Democratic Party? Are we going to let the DSCC and the DCCC turn their back on fighting Democrats like Chuck Pennacchio, Paul Hackett, Christine Cegalis and Steve Young?
Who speaks for the Democratic Party? Harry Reid would prefer that everyone just keeps their mouth shut. Lieberman seems to think he speaks for the Democratic Party. A lot of DLC Sockpuppets don't want Howard Dean to speak for the Democratic Party.

liberals Hate America said...

John Kerry (I served In Vietnam)link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry#Military_honors

Guru When you post something please post your source or we will take for granted it is just your liberal clouded mind looking thru your Rose colored hippy glasses you are still looking thru since 1968 as the rest of your party does. You still relate to today terrorists as if it was still Vietnam. How can you forget that we were attacked on American soil?
Don’t you think it is better to take the conflict to them than to fight it here?
Why did Libya give up its WMD program and is now in the process of resuming relations with the U.S.?
I must state that I did not favor going to war in Iraq, but to Cut & Run now would be a huge mistake for our nation.

Virtous Woman said...

Unions raise the pay levels for us all. Unionixed Attorneys are fine with me. They are working with a contract. The Townships and City Attorneys are under contract so there isn't really a difference. Think about it.

Stands Right said...

Hey, "Virtous Woman"!

Its "Virtuous," not "Virtous." Or, are you trying to tell us something with your missing "u"?

Communications guru said...

Yes she is. She’s trying to tell you Unions raise the pay levels for all workers, they protect their safety and they created the middle class.

Stands Right said...

WOW, GURU! Profound!

Communications guru said...

Thankk you. However, you forgot true.